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935: Extra Credit CASP11 Refinement Target: TR811
Status: Closed

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Name: 935: Extra Credit CASP11 Refinement Target: TR811
Status: Closed
Created: 07/07/2014
Points: 10
Expired: 07/14/2014 - 23:00
Difficulty: Advanced
Description: This CASP11 refinement target is an extremely large 251 residue TIM barrel. Beware that not all computers are powerful enough to run this puzzle comfortably. Due to player requests for some larger, more interesting CASP11 targets, we are making this puzzle available to all Foldit players who wish to work on it. However, players should not feel obligated to play this puzzle to maintain leader board rankings; this puzzle is worth only 10 points!
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Joined: 09/19/2011
Groups: Beta Folders
We should get 150 points for monsters like this, not 10.

We should get 150 points for monsters like this, not 10.

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Extra Credit puzzles

We posted this Extra Credit puzzle because some players requested it recently:
http://fold.it/portal/node/998061#comment-28172
but the CASP puzzle load was much too high at the time to post one.

This idea with these Extra Credit monsters is not that you don't deserve 100 points (you should get 200 points for ones this big!) but that not everyone is able to participate in these beasts.

For those that are unable to run such a large protein on their computers, it would be even more frustrating to miss out on a potential 150 points.

These are really designed as "Extra Credit", just for fun... and not for the points! :-)

Joined: 09/19/2011
Groups: Beta Folders
If that is the case, don't

If that is the case, don't give any points.

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Joined: 07/13/2011
Thanks!

Thank you very much for posting this :)

I appreciate it very much ^_^ I like these larger puzzles very much. Of course, I would love to get multiple hundreds of points for folding this beast, but I really wouldn't feel right, considering many players can't play it.

But no points doesn't give any incentive to play either :P

Thank you again!

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GDT

GDT of starting structure is 73.5 according to the predictioncenter website, for those interested.

Joined: 09/24/2012
Groups: Go Science
big ones

There is even a bigger one here for 0 points:

http://fold.it/portal/node/996825

38 players played it only for fun.

We see that with 10 points, more players try it than with 0 points (see also DEVPREV): 138 compared to 167 players for a normal 934 puzzle.

And it's not fair to give too big advantage to owners of powerful computers (we already have an advantage when there are many puzzles on the same time I believe): the risk is to loose good "human" players.

So, I believe 10 points is a good compromise for this one.

Joined: 09/24/2012
Groups: Go Science
Experiment 0 points?

Just for the experiment, you could give us a big one for 0 points.

I suppose that, apart for fun, it would also be interesting for teams competing in CASP11 on their name.

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