Some shares load lower on 851

Case number:699969-997152
Topic:General
Opened by:smilingone
Status:Open
Type:Bug
Opened on:Saturday, March 1, 2014 - 19:30
Last modified:Friday, April 4, 2014 - 08:36

My high share on 851 loads lower than it was saved as. 14441.209 loads as 14439.776

I've seen this happen on another puzzle recently, but, don't recall which one offhand.

(Sat, 03/01/2014 - 19:30  |  41 comments)


Joined: 09/19/2011
Groups: Beta Folders

Another one.... 14468.394 loads as 14449.821 when shared. Can't get help running a score up this way!

Joined: 09/24/2012
Groups: Go Science

see discussion here:
http://fold.it/portal/node/996200

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This appears to be an entirely different bug.

Joined: 09/19/2011
Groups: Beta Folders

That is a different issue. You had loaded from a different puzzle...

Joined: 09/24/2012
Groups: Go Science

or is it a bug in the high score (you said you jumped when opening the client?). Like here?
http://fold.it/portal/node/994214

Joined: 09/19/2011
Groups: Beta Folders

No...not an issue with high score from opening a client. It would have been an easy evo since I know which recipe made it jump when I restarted after sharing. Client hadn't been closed. I had simply stopped the script to share.

Trying to load the share on a new client didn't work.

Joined: 06/24/2008
Groups: Void Crushers

VC has shared two solutions on 851 and the evol scores are fine for both.

Joined: 09/19/2011
Groups: Beta Folders

Some share fine, but, I have the misfortune of several that don't share fine.

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Looking into this. And thank you for the scientist shares—keep them coming for any more solutions that give you trouble! They should be very helpful for debugging this issue.

Joined: 09/24/2012
Groups: Go Science

Good idea. If I get similar bug, I'll share with scientist.

Joined: 09/19/2011
Groups: Beta Folders

I tried sending more, but, apparently I can't send more than three. If you already have the first three I sent I'll delete one and send another.

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Go ahead, smilingone, I have copies the ones you shared previously. Thanks!

Joined: 09/24/2012
Groups: Go Science

Got similar bug on top score Museka (we get a result 15 pts lower), shared with Scientists

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Please continue to share misbehaving solutions in Puzzle 852!

Joined: 09/19/2011
Groups: Beta Folders

bkoep... I've shared a few more to scientist's today. My high score loads 66 points lower. And, to get there I've had to evo for long periods starting with scores that were loaded lower and required more than the normal two points to evo.

So, my new reality is to simply work on evo even it if requires a lot of points, but, it's a bit frustrating when you see other's evo immediately with point gains upon opening.

Hopefully, you get this fixed soon.

Joined: 09/19/2011
Groups: Beta Folders

I've submitted a few shares on 856 today that don't load correctly. I shared last night before shutting my computer down and when I turned it on and tried loading them today they load much lower. I will have to work 24 hours to catch up to my own high evo.

And, Loci mentioned in group chat yesterday that one of his solo's wouldn't load for him.

This bug still exists.

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Thanks, smilingone, this is good to know. I'm sorry you're still running into this problem—we're still trying to figure out the source of the bug.

Joined: 09/24/2012
Groups: Go Science

Sharing bug solution 852 to scientists.
Top @14862 shared opens at 14842, but there is also a quick save@14867 that I can only open about 14842. When I try a restore very best, a cut appears and the score is 14847 (not credited).
The only client still running @14862 is the first client (not on default track).

I shared 3 of this steps to Scientists

Joined: 09/24/2012
Groups: Go Science

Now with the same recipe, I succeed to gain points on this share from 14842.
It's like the puzzle were fixed on a quick save, ready to start from this.
Note that there were no quick saves between the beginning and the end of the recipe i used to go from about 14832 to 14862. It's like the quick saves stopped working from 14842

Joined: 09/24/2012
Groups: Go Science

Finally, my only client still able to evolve our group top crashed. That means that there is no way to compete anymore because of this kind of bug. Quite frustrating. Just seeing other teams going up for the latest 9 hours.

Joined: 09/19/2011
Groups: Beta Folders

Our shares are still hit and miss. Some load correctly and others don't. Our top share doesn't load either.

Joined: 09/24/2012
Groups: Go Science

I noticed another bug (or is this intentional?) only on puzzle 852: when using recipe using command "disable slow filter", the puzzle doesn't behave like other ones. It's like this command is not considered. Manual disable works however.

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My 14997 share for 856 reloaded at 14902. The 14997 save was rock solid (cement) and could not be improved no matter what I did. The reloaded 14902, on the other hand, was easy to improve with several different recipes.

phi16

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Hey phi16, this sounds like a slightly different bug—could you share that solution with us using the Share with Scientists option?

Joined: 09/19/2011
Groups: Beta Folders

I just shared another 856 to scientists. My solo is pretty low and it surprises me to see the issue at low scores. Solo was at 14550.949 when client crashed...just closed. Reloads as 14420, which is down 130 points, but, it moves easier. The earlier lower loads were rock solid. So, it's all just hit and miss on 856. My lower score is up about 8 points in a short amount of time. But, there is no way I'll reach my high in the time left on the puzzle.

High evo of 14909.176 loads as 14890.789... that one is also shared to scientists

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Groups: Beta Folders

856 after high saved and reloaded 20 points lower

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Pairwise
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Hiding
Bonding
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Backbone
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hiding -61.93925432
bonding 11.44398838
ideality -3.23694850
backbone -2.43707108
sidechain -3.33252420
reference -4.64979000
other -1.19494819

64 l Leu 23.43500057932
clashing -4.04473293
packing 61.61100230
hiding -32.78012086
bonding 15.09859507
ideality -2.14939160
backbone 8.00164868
sidechain -4.33638831
reference -18.06984000
other 0.10422825

65 g Gly 19.932365049325
clashing -5.22572884
packing 48.95784724
hiding -56.44828964
bonding 15.64159124
ideality -6.25120410
reference -4.21578000
other 27.47392914


Joined: 09/19/2011
Groups: Beta Folders

856 before high saved. Will follow with after

Clashing
Pairwise
Packing
Hiding
Bonding
Ideality
Other Bonding
Backbone
Sidechain
Disulfides
Reference
Structure
Holes
Surface Area
Interchain Docking
Neighbor Vector
Symmetry
Van der Waals
Density
Other
1 p Pro 37.111483802412
clashing -5.69862633
packing 53.58367750
hiding -40.00677382
bonding 15.97737132
ideality -7.26139318
backbone -0.87037379
sidechain -1.10037563
reference 21.57855000
other 0.90942773

2 e Glu 37.099923295451
clashing -7.19899097
packing 84.58728389
hiding -73.97967587
bonding 21.55622559
ideality -8.50912602
backbone 11.52491943
sidechain -70.33534254
reference 46.61220000
other 32.84242979

3 k Lys 69.260292849652
clashing -17.05166129
packing 112.90869248
hiding -89.56800918
bonding 29.80501443
ideality -5.28602570
backbone 7.75825469
sidechain -22.44434443
reference 8.62122000
other 44.51715186

4 q Gln 42.000016773655
clashing -11.78559014
packing 151.62113265
hiding -92.66820810
bonding 14.00741352
ideality -4.84868048
backbone 5.19262900
sidechain -60.06683414
reference 35.33910000
other 5.20905446

5 r Arg 75.684907899255
clashing -13.84007396
packing 150.42545907
hiding -125.02408453
bonding 44.69547827
ideality -5.15093646
backbone 2.80667180
sidechain -41.69851370
reference -1.52520000
other 64.99610741

6 k Lys 93.677798238561
clashing -13.34770125
packing 134.56544254
hiding -90.35176489
bonding 44.74141384
ideality -5.44114429
backbone 2.18842665
sidechain -22.89649764
reference 8.62122000
other 35.59840327

7 v Val 94.321129766394
clashing -24.65468310
packing 163.65013696
hiding -54.32844020
bonding 27.08082986
ideality -2.30714331
backbone -3.18629789
sidechain -0.22684833
reference -22.34532000
other 10.63889578

8 r Arg 90.811697605464
clashing -8.67516853
packing 141.87026287
hiding -108.56760141
bonding 53.73001601
ideality -1.61853913
backbone 8.45856956
sidechain -38.67961488
reference -1.52520000
other 45.81897312

9 e Glu 84.655091699984
clashing -11.58696557
packing 134.13548136
hiding -96.36098866
bonding 35.36196537
ideality -1.15966716
backbone 10.60702389
sidechain -65.87679049
reference 46.61220000
other 32.92283297

10 e Glu 134.94273577717
clashing -12.90957916
packing 166.83646938
hiding -112.28333481
bonding 53.62376849
ideality -2.11252427
backbone 9.74337570
sidechain -75.64248696
reference 46.61220000
other 61.07484740

11 r Arg 98.909606955867
clashing -15.80846500
packing 205.41090239
hiding -120.48896935
bonding 53.37732106
ideality -5.85323865
backbone -1.24663575
sidechain -46.50229648
reference -1.52520000
other 31.54618874

12 e Glu 122.96952270094
clashing -8.86302300
packing 149.54188387
hiding -112.50911737
bonding 65.79229091
ideality -8.07776220
backbone 11.22442189
sidechain -72.38493223
reference 46.61220000
other 51.63356082

13 k Lys 74.131330973206
clashing -10.99570540
packing 132.89278792
hiding -93.82299660
bonding 39.19716424
ideality -6.05802317
backbone 4.67082531
sidechain -28.74247673
reference 8.62122000
other 28.36853540

14 l Leu 100.64090773998
clashing -23.32030467
packing 175.77430295
hiding -58.96008246
bonding 23.96141263
ideality -5.42364716
backbone 5.74379581
sidechain -3.81252319
reference -18.06984000
other 4.74779384

15 r Arg 113.25404556794
clashing -10.01536650
packing 169.17989127
hiding -116.24580953
bonding 67.50413302
ideality -7.97038991
backbone 7.15068501
sidechain -51.22157718
reference -1.52520000
other 56.39767938

16 e Glu 84.03261410484
clashing -10.95391588
packing 130.40379685
hiding -91.81654098
bonding 36.63202619
ideality -6.61254060
backbone 11.52553688
sidechain -69.71048010
reference 46.61220000
other 37.95253175

17 e Glu 91.762470964114
clashing -8.84754946
packing 142.25798211
hiding -104.63356502
bonding 40.25065879
ideality -2.52442975
backbone 9.43929627
sidechain -72.16394951
reference 46.61220000
other 41.37182753

18 l Leu 98.819844942434
clashing -23.14698786
packing 171.42476066
hiding -57.78798424
bonding 24.70323331
ideality -3.14125407
backbone 5.64883989
sidechain -8.42579720
reference -18.06984000
other 7.61487443

19 k Lys 85.994392386856
clashing -9.05685380
packing 124.68624468
hiding -86.51997070
bonding 37.86290536
ideality -3.98707238
backbone 5.43215170
sidechain -25.23482101
reference 8.62122000
other 34.19058854

20 k Lys 89.780187567592
clashing -8.01611164
packing 122.47896899
hiding -89.00486390
bonding 41.98641732
ideality -4.47341638
backbone 6.93019681
sidechain -23.94343431
reference 8.62122000
other 35.20121067

21 t Thr 94.724809618776
clashing -10.20773542
packing 136.22771677
hiding -87.37947377
bonding 44.99947085
ideality -3.73734914
backbone -3.64461067
sidechain -2.01172416
reference -1.93620000
other 22.41471517

22 m Met 69.425708993434
clashing -13.64867102
packing 163.35057015
hiding -69.67871371
bonding 27.91557650
ideality -2.66590700
backbone -2.97495704
sidechain -36.31357047
reference -4.76031000
other 8.20169158

23 e Glu 78.365717425569
clashing -6.96908146
packing 110.94939385
hiding -79.93799881
bonding 35.33785889
ideality -3.00505139
backbone 5.51308683
sidechain -63.70066347
reference 46.61220000
other 33.56597298

24 k Lys 74.850483015288
clashing -6.35768421
packing 106.29038946
hiding -77.55877742
bonding 33.06558292
ideality -2.92071815
backbone 3.70456539
sidechain -26.05658761
reference 8.62122000
other 36.06249263

25 i Ile 105.70564244549
clashing -18.20585858
packing 166.98735676
hiding -46.97167259
bonding 25.94184732
ideality -3.69130405
backbone 2.30055464
sidechain -3.13798273
reference -24.95409000
other 7.43679168

26 e Glu 126.41121420492
clashing -10.36127150
packing 146.72090959
hiding -99.05283344
bonding 45.36296373
ideality -2.64217001
backbone 4.05295010
sidechain -63.82276732
reference 46.61220000
other 59.54123305

27 k Lys 86.115439866905
clashing -8.89834828
packing 116.90995624
hiding -76.54277046
bonding 31.38389061
ideality -3.83649588
backbone 7.04573291
sidechain -23.76226037
reference 8.62122000
other 35.19451510

28 q Gln 51.997381241326
clashing -6.87090966
packing 116.40399989
hiding -71.06481346
bonding 35.86756244
ideality -4.57407544
backbone -0.27464992
sidechain -67.57968018
reference 35.33910000
other 14.75084757

29 l Leu 110.87971493445
clashing -14.37193604
packing 175.80475361
hiding -44.07745270
bonding 12.91792054
ideality -4.21570685
backbone 3.73956759
sidechain -3.85366595
reference -18.06984000
other 3.00607474

30 k Lys 61.965901409555
clashing -8.49757084
packing 104.23187418
hiding -59.37154945
bonding 22.78856960
ideality -6.03120146
backbone 3.33723665
sidechain -26.17047851
reference 8.62122000
other 23.05780124

31 k Lys 21.992506710839
clashing -5.22341894
packing 59.87481570
hiding -34.67551537
bonding 10.71776317
ideality -4.21574197
backbone 4.80442114
sidechain -23.09226873
reference 8.62122000
other 5.18123171

32 r Arg 20.614253844628
clashing -6.92285947
packing 113.12307105
hiding -98.22541022
bonding 36.02616473
ideality -3.39678989
backbone -12.99889977
sidechain -42.10301908
reference -1.52520000
other 36.63719650

33 l Leu 34.665334781224
clashing -4.13687454
packing 72.82789888
hiding -11.84945677
ideality -3.09877067
backbone 6.68530612
sidechain -9.10286090
reference -18.06984000
other 1.40993267

34 s Ser 56.301353777913
clashing -5.30400950
packing 97.08077662
hiding -81.20006955
bonding 26.54199406
ideality -3.54508931
backbone 7.05750436
sidechain -2.66493694
reference -2.29749000
other 20.63267403

35 l Leu 3.042136844329
clashing -7.67760951
packing 70.05134046
hiding -41.58868074
bonding 14.22346060
ideality -4.61270307
backbone -0.66835995
sidechain -12.93874707
reference -18.06984000
other 4.32327612

36 e Glu 69.853466498319
clashing -6.48345529
packing 108.51012365
hiding -82.56348396
bonding 33.18005229
ideality -5.83369000
backbone 7.15341733
sidechain -67.78729276
reference 46.61220000
other 37.06559524

37 d Asp 117.78749659174
clashing -11.99013051
packing 183.94078090
hiding -148.53954446
bonding 56.23719424
ideality -6.32340676
backbone 3.89019805
sidechain -64.00115377
reference 38.60460000
other 65.96895889

38 l Leu 68.382830494374
clashing -16.17737455
packing 135.03147463
hiding -50.84900310
bonding 20.97339677
ideality -4.14136260
backbone 5.36090124
sidechain -8.20004505
reference -18.06984000
other 4.45468315

39 i Ile 61.752418307347
clashing -10.19682594
packing 124.24547855
hiding -61.02668558
bonding 29.61121155
ideality -3.02133599
backbone 2.62788529
sidechain -2.57022960
reference -24.95409000
other 7.03701002

40 r Arg 64.311977151436
clashing -12.71694142
packing 139.92238377
hiding -91.34798112
bonding 45.51379672
ideality -7.80839145
backbone 7.94899597
sidechain -51.04633010
reference -1.52520000
other 35.37164477

41 v Val 66.808698704244
clashing -23.82072851
packing 163.02953414
hiding -44.48475203
bonding 22.95891683
ideality -8.03376313
backbone -9.24544078
sidechain -17.15815284
reference -22.34532000
other 5.90840502

42 l Leu 41.170915572616
clashing -14.81898738
packing 117.62267694
hiding -57.06966252
bonding 22.38676724
ideality -5.88665246
backbone 4.91113091
sidechain -14.68218727
reference -18.06984000
other 6.77767013

43 k Lys 62.576858668799
clashing -11.62147401
packing 123.11346357
hiding -69.50965402
bonding 27.36562392
ideality -6.65668565
backbone 7.86762222
sidechain -22.59005082
reference 8.62122000
other 5.98679346

44 e Glu 103.21280871144
clashing -13.31034740
packing 150.61187405
hiding -113.92373547
bonding 45.72560019
ideality -4.47436297
backbone 8.33125963
sidechain -73.45866896
reference 46.61220000
other 57.09898965

45 i Ile 100.4134817648
clashing -12.49042111
packing 154.54287005
hiding -45.61848108
bonding 26.37692756
ideality -4.61666126
backbone 2.05150075
sidechain -2.42265695
reference -24.95409000
other 7.54449381

46 l Leu 54.790802126623
clashing -8.03732619
packing 112.17486364
hiding -55.69226382
bonding 26.83942447
ideality -5.91131348
backbone 5.29751580
sidechain -7.29349241
reference -18.06984000
other 5.48323412

47 k Lys 72.2714000334
clashing -10.59054345
packing 120.63067819
hiding -88.55797785
bonding 38.83348623
ideality -7.11502309
backbone 5.40871460
sidechain -25.53542820
reference 8.62122000
other 30.57627359

48 t Thr 80.371846901663
clashing -9.00943643
packing 119.06256803
hiding -78.76030802
bonding 48.91273667
ideality -6.72969922
backbone -3.75539457
sidechain -1.97821726
reference -1.93620000
other 14.56579770

49 i Ile 68.301281322055
clashing -18.59071316
packing 142.26651225
hiding -58.17765061
bonding 28.74179525
ideality -5.69846219
backbone -1.19905557
sidechain -3.31511848
reference -24.95409000
other 9.22806382

50 e Glu 46.197749448095
clashing -10.16817522
packing 96.30016725
hiding -61.24382637
bonding 28.40663785
ideality -3.38044317
backbone 3.63892577
sidechain -63.33872483
reference 46.61220000
other 9.37098817

51 e Glu 96.931592928487
clashing -8.21323397
packing 132.04782319
hiding -97.57282022
bonding 51.92404920
ideality -3.50547846
backbone 8.78250691
sidechain -67.87980749
reference 46.61220000
other 34.73635377

52 i Ile 99.782091390162
clashing -28.37529644
packing 169.83803291
hiding -48.17714517
bonding 30.49424799
ideality -5.38125811
backbone -1.38636496
sidechain -2.42020861
reference -24.95409000
other 10.14417378

53 i Ile 53.239272443549
clashing -21.44484037
packing 130.29829766
hiding -60.18945636
bonding 26.24129807
ideality -6.04752633
backbone 0.56534722
sidechain -2.55259629
reference -24.95409000
other 11.32283884

54 e Glu 71.848369074351
clashing -11.33110362
packing 107.10057714
hiding -75.51003250
bonding 37.49912974
ideality -4.79208611
backbone 1.70195094
sidechain -63.12417805
reference 46.61220000
other 33.69191154

55 r Arg 102.74766377254
clashing -14.04356433
packing 165.44386508
hiding -116.17549953
bonding 67.37711627
ideality -8.43611797
backbone 8.09849347
sidechain -51.80901422
reference -1.52520000
other 53.81758499

56 i Ile 91.436476299074
clashing -22.36784502
packing 162.07729446
hiding -49.12649334
bonding 29.25947758
ideality -10.99403310
backbone 1.01189454
sidechain -2.53873045
reference -24.95409000
other 9.06900162

57 f Phe -3.3565312279274
clashing -16.64586485
packing 133.95477080
hiding -48.80776081
bonding 26.29884430
ideality -9.12721681
backbone -5.13277749
sidechain -74.90453453
reference -18.91710000
other 9.92510816

58 k Lys 69.127210276797
clashing -7.77636940
packing 118.05382871
hiding -83.23816517
bonding 36.76262696
ideality -8.73407719
backbone 4.34903865
sidechain -26.97120505
reference 8.62122000
other 28.06031276

59 l Leu 93.671418284474
clashing -18.82565967
packing 173.28263874
hiding -66.61814185
bonding 23.78461541
ideality -5.00188191
backbone 4.74690340
sidechain -3.21117533
reference -18.06984000
other 3.58395949

60 i Ile 64.130879852597
clashing -13.29034145
packing 130.19223088
hiding -58.35407972
bonding 29.84464027
ideality -4.13238792
backbone 0.13339456
sidechain -2.09282892
reference -24.95409000
other 6.78434216

61 e Glu 36.098725789128
clashing -8.47161236
packing 98.83137120
hiding -60.32708593
bonding 24.81054531
ideality -4.78678682
backbone 6.95307840
sidechain -77.94786499
reference 46.61220000
other 10.42488098

62 d Asp 89.344247779641
clashing -6.83561757
packing 131.29456593
hiding -112.84323877
bonding 43.08885890
ideality -4.77210582
backbone 0.96526117
sidechain -38.14087205
reference 38.60460000
other 37.98279600

63 c Cys 19.379071004857
clashing -10.58210313
packing 95.30768819
hiding -61.93921921
bonding 11.44398838
ideality -3.23694850
backbone -2.43707108
sidechain -3.33252420
reference -4.64979000
other -1.19494945

64 l Leu 23.435000579105
clashing -4.04473293
packing 61.61100230
hiding -32.78012086
bonding 15.09859507
ideality -2.14939160
backbone 8.00164868
sidechain -4.33638831
reference -18.06984000
other 0.10422825

65 g Gly 19.932365049526
clashing -5.22572884
packing 48.95784724
hiding -56.44828964
bonding 15.64159124
ideality -6.25120410
reference -4.21578000
other 27.47392914


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A follow-up to smilingone's last post.

Here are the text files showing the before and after results for an 856 solution.

This is the output from a recipe shared with Beta Folders by brgreening. The recipe reports the score parts for each segment in the protein.

At first glance, it seems like the differences are mostly fractional.

Not sure where the 20-point difference comes in. Will try to render this output into spreadsheet-friendly form and do some auditing.

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Did a spreadsheet comparison of the two files, found a total difference of 10.75 points between the two reports.

Only segments 18, 29, and 35 had a difference greater than one point in their score (reported via GetSegmentEnergyScore).

Segment 18 had the biggest change, losing 2.81 points. It lost 1.09 points on its clashing score and 4.43 points on its hiding score, but gained 2.97 points on packing.

Most segments had small losses, although a few had small gains.

Overall, the total of GetSegmentEnergySubscore values matches the total of GetSegmentEnergyScore value, so at least that works.

Segment 33 didn't report an ideality score in either run of the script. Segment 65, a glycine, didn't report backbone or sidechain scores. (No sidechain score makes sense, why no backbone?)

Spreadsheet versions of before, after, and differences attached. Change the extension to just .csv and open with your favorite spreadsheet. On the differences sheet, positive number represent a loss when the solution was reopened.

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Just to be clear, what took place between the 'before' and 'after' script outputs? You just saved and reloaded the solution? On the same client or a different client?

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Script stopped. Restored to credit high and ran script and saved output as before file. Saved solution and closed client. Reopened same client and solution loaded lower. Ran the after file at this point.

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Thanks for collecting this data, smilingone—it gave us some ideas on what might be going on, although we're still trying to figure this one out. If you get a chance to try the new devprev puzzle, let us know if you still have problems saving and loading.

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The most recent devprev update includes a fix that we think can "circumvent" this bug, although we still haven't identified the root of the problem. We'd really appreciate if some of you could try out the devprev puzzle, Broken Symmetry Loads, and let us know if you continue see inconsistent scores in your loaded solutions. Thanks!

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I suppose...we could write a LUA script that saves all the score parts, # of rotamers, and maybe something like the distance from the last atom to C-a, and stuffs this all into a note. It could then do the same thing on the loaded puzzle and compute the difference for you. Would this be useful? And not a problem (you don't want a giant note displayed!). Although, it looks like it's already clear that the atom positions are not being restored accurately, and the workaround might make the effect disappear in the next patch.

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I encountered a crash running the Broken Symmetry puzzle (aka the B.S. puzzle). The crash was "asymmetry introduced by ActionIdealize". This makes sense, as I was running an idealization script at the time. I saw similar problems during the earlier trimer puzzles. On those puzzles, I saw an "unknown atom" crash at least a couple of times while idealizing.

After the crash, the autosave for my high score loaded two points lower than its stated value. I've shared the autosave with the scientists.

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Thanks for the feedback - I'm looking at your crash report right now.

Do you know how long the script had been running when it crashed?

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The script started 3/24/14 23:24:23 CDT, entered a new cycle 03/25/14 01:01:57 CDT, and crashed shortly thereafter, around 1:03 CDT. So just under 40 minutes total run time. I archived the whole directory after the crash, can share whatever you need.

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Used upload for scientists to share a BS solution which shows a score of 14031.744, but loads as 14030.900. The difference is 99% in bonding subscores of the last two segments, 64-65.

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Joined: 08/05/2010
Groups: Void Crushers

any feedback from the specially posted devprev puzzle to examine this?

Joined: 09/19/2011
Groups: Beta Folders

I didn't run it up high enough to test it properly since it made my client crash. The loading issue generally didn't show itself until higher scores were achieved.

Joined: 07/21/2013
Groups: Beta Folders

Did we consider if the person having this bug was in devprev or main?

What happens if a person in devprev passes a solution to a person in main, or visa versa?

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