zero point puzzle? (Arabidopsis)

Case number:699969-995389
Opened by:alwen
Opened on:Friday, June 21, 2013 - 19:29
Last modified:Friday, July 12, 2013 - 23:56

"This small unsolved Arabidopsis protein only has 59 residues and negatively controls the biosynthesis of starch in plants and regulates leaf and seed composition. We are giving you 5 starts for this puzzle. Resetting the puzzle will cycle through these 5 Zhang server predictions. They are also in the Alignment Tool so you can use partial threading as well as an extended chain. This version of the puzzle is designed for veteran Foldit players to help new players and is worth 0 global points."

Is that correct?

0 global points?

(Fri, 06/21/2013 - 19:29  |  6 comments)

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If it is correct, please explain the rational and why we should work on it.

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In fact, why not just "charge" us points to play these beginner puzzles? Isn't that the next evolution of this madness? If you play this puzzle, it will COST you 10 points, but hey, you will be helping!

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You don't need to play the 0 point puzzles, and we aren't necessarily expecting you to! It's simply there as a reference for more seasoned players in case you find yourself helping someone new to Foldit.

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but foldit goes under the heading 'game science'.

A game is a competition - any competition is usually settled by points of some sort. So if there are no points (or equivalent
) then it no longer qualifies as a game - QED

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Except that the 'beginner' puzzles are for beginner players, and are there to facilitate competition among the newer players of the game.

Advanced players have their own puzzles to compete on - the useful ones that we actually analyze the results of. This is where we want our advanced players focusing their efforts. We do, however, understand that some advanced players still like to be able to play these puzzles in order to help newer players, and so we've left an open category where it may be viewed. We have plans to make this possible without posting a 0 point puzzle, which I agree is confusing.

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To resolve this for future Beginner Puzzles, we have replaced this version of the puzzle with a Gallery Mode version:

Here is the first example:


Developed by: UW Center for Game Science, UW Institute for Protein Design, Northeastern University, Vanderbilt University Meiler Lab, UC Davis
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