Segment score

Case number:845813-983288
Topic:Game: Tools
Opened by:DisposableHeart
Status:Closed
Type:Suggestion
Opened on:Monday, February 9, 2009 - 11:01
Last modified:Friday, January 6, 2012 - 01:35

I would like to see a full list of the segments' score with at least 4 decimals and I'd like to save/copy them in text format. Pasting them in an excel sheet I could evaluate/visualize the differences of various states. If the app could do it for me, it would be even better.

Thanks,
Peter

(Mon, 02/09/2009 - 11:01  |  9 comments)


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regardless of any other consideration, the current application only shows three decimal places of accuracy. Why four?

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The app shows 3 decimals in the puzzle score. As we know the internal calculations happen in higher resolution (floating point operations).

The individual segment scores are displayed in note mode as integers. I asked for "at least four" in the export. The more the better for further calculations.

The exported data could help pointing out differences in structures that otherwise are not visible.

I would particularly like to know what happens in sheets when I local wiggle one of them and global wiggle afterwards. How the not-local-wiggled sheets get distorted/relaxed. And the uses are plenty.....

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but the score calculation is probably much deeper than that..why stop at four?

I understand your purpose and agree that it could be beneficial, just didn't understand the need for that level of detail...we're talking about thousandths or even less of a percent difference at the fourth decimal place

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Don't stop at four, but make it at least four! :-D

We don't know what we're talking about when it comes to accuracy. I bet none of us players can tell at the moment the segment level energy content difference when the score changes 0.001 point... or any points for that matter. I guess, depending on the size of the puzzle the segment level differences are at least 2 orders of magnitude smaller.

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"If the app could do it for me, it would be even better."

What would this look like? If an excel spreadsheet gives you a better view of the information than the actual game does, I'd say the actual game is doing something wrong...

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I did not think over what it could look like in the app. The app doesn't do anything wrong in this regard, simply does not provide certain type of information. In Excel I have the freedom to manipulate data to understand the internals of the application and tools better.

But this discussion here is rather theoretical considering the team's response time to feature requests. ;-)

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much of this will be doable by those users who can program when they get the "inventory system" implemented.

but as to suggestions, at a guess, the ones that will more likely be implemented are those that serve the majority of folders, rather than a minority, regardless of the feature's individual power. If I may ask, how would you implement this feature so that a large number of players would benefit?

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If for nothing else, one can compare their current solve against the team solve to see differences and be able to improve their solo.
The current color coding and visualization is not sufficient.

I think majority of players would be happy to see why they cannot achieve the same score as their team did, however they have access to the team solve.

But Xiando, please help me out! Do I have to convince you first to get any of my ideas through? ;-)

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It can be done by lua script. Done.

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