Some 691 shares require up to 209 points to evo

Case number:699969-994812
Topic:General
Opened by:smilingone
Status:Open
Type:Bug
Opened on:Sunday, March 24, 2013 - 05:17
Last modified:Monday, December 4, 2017 - 02:08

I tried an evo on two different shares by two different group members on 691. One required 138 points to evo and the 2nd one required 209 points to evo. The required score on the last one I tried is higher than the group high by 146.

I did find one share that evo'd with the normal 2 points. But, 2 out of 3 requiring very high score appears to be a bug.

(Sun, 03/24/2013 - 05:17  |  18 comments)


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Sorry for not replying earlier but we are looking into this.

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Hi smilingone,

I'm looking into this issue. Could you please post another comment in this feedback, providing both the group member's name and the solution name for the two shared solutions which required very high scores to evo. Thanks!

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1. pvc78 share of 15555.682 requires 15693

2. bertro share of 15708.284 requires 15917

3. bertro share of 15814.891 requires 15917

4. bertro share of 16288.205 requires 16611

I just stopped my client to get this info for you. I wanted to make sure those shares were still in place. Btw, one of bertro's shares is unevo'd. We just wanted to experiment with it.

The share that requires 16611 is still unevo'd at 16618. And, the high group is 16435.

I was at 16435.882 when I stopped my client and shared that score to group since it is the highest showing for group. Upon opening a new client and using the same track my high is now 16355. I even downloaded my share of 16435 and it changed to 16355. I disabled the filter to see if that would give me the 16435 back. That ended up with an unevo'd 16664.379. There's nothing I can do to get the 16435 back and this has been a constant problem with this puzzle.

This issue takes the fun out of the game.

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Probable cause: the score with filters off was higher then the score with filters on. And that score is remembered for evoing.

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I thought of that timo... however, it isn't that simple. It didn't evo after meeting the required score. I work with the filters on due to the note by Baker: http://fold.it/portal/node/994822

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Related generic topic (with solutions and latest status)
http://fold.it/portal/node/994817

Duplicate topics:
http://fold.it/portal/node/994798
http://fold.it/portal/node/994811
http://fold.it/portal/node/994750

=> I close this discussion here despite of the beautiful smile of the author.

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This is a discussion about evo issues that the devs are working on after getting requested information. Let's the devs close it when they are done.

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Devs requested info and actively working this case. Why close?

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assigning, tjbertram is looking into these (and related) issues

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This evo issue showed up in puzzle 695 also.

Cassandra's share of 28649.624 requires 35535 to evo.

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@smilingone and others: ok sorry. Just wanted to help readers with these many posts on the same subject.

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Ok, smilingone, I have been investigating the issues with puzzle 691 that you posted in this feedback, and I can report some findings back to you.

(However, note that you actually raised multiple issues in your feedback, and some of these issues I am still investigating.)

Ok, so my findings to date are as follows:

1. pvc78 share of 15555.682 requires 15693
In this case, the reason why you will need a score of at least 15693 to evo this solution is because pvc78 had actually achieved a soloist score of 15691 at some point prior to when the solution was saved. Although the score was 15555 at the time the solution was saved, the score required to evo is based on the best score reached, i.e. 15691 + 2 = 15693.

2. bertro share of 15708.284 requires 15917
This case is similar to #1 (above). In this case, the reason why you will need a score of at least 15917 to evo this solution is because bertro had actually achieved a soloist score of 15915 at some point prior to when the solution was saved. In this particular case, it looks like bertro's best soloist score of 15915 was actually achieved and recorded in an earlier session (and perhaps recorded via the autosave feature?). Nonetheless, the score required to evo is still based on the best score reached, i.e. 15915 + 2 = 15917.

3. bertro share of 15814.891 requires 15917
This case is essentially the same as #2 (above). Although the score at the time of saving the solution is different from that of #2 (15814 vs. 15708), bertro's best soloist score of 15915 is still what determines the score required to evo of 15917.

4. bertro share of 16288.205 requires 16611
This case is actually the evolver version of #1 (above). In this case, the reason why you will need a score of at least 16611 to evo this solution is because bertro had actually achieved an evolver score of 16609 at some point prior to when the solution was saved. Although the score was 16288 at the time the solution was saved, the score required to evo is based on the best evolver score reached, i.e. 16609 + 2 = 16611.

I am still investigating the issue of the score, when a solution is loaded, not equalling the score, when the solution was saved.

tjbertram

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tjbertram:

Then the question becomes: where are those solutions with higher score? Because neither are available thru the Very Best / Credit Best buttons and in any of the Autosaved / Quicksaved solutions.

It is as if the client only registered those high score internally.

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and please look also at this one:

http://fold.it/portal/node/994897

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Is this a case of the non-filtered score being recorded, and used to determine the score needed to evolve a solution?

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Same bug on 1455:
-some team shares require huge amount of points to evo
-another one evolved immediately when loaded

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I think it has to do with the shift in points
when loading a solution from 1450 into 1455.
I've noticed that the aflatoxin residue's
bonding score in 1455 is about half what
it was in 1450.

It might also have to do with whether 1455's
penalty for extra residues is zero or nonzero.

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Thanks for the note! I think I know what the problem is—for puzzle 1455, at least.

In puzzle 1450, all ligand interactions were up-weighted by a factor of two; this is not the case in puzzle 1455. We might be able to close and repost an amended version of puzzle 1455.

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