puzzle picture
Beginner Puzzle 20: Alignment Tool
Status: Closed

Groups

RankGroupScorePoints
1Anthropic Dreams11,675100
2Ukraine11,54184
3Russian team11,43370
4Another Hour Another Point11,37258
5Richard Dawkins Foundation11,35548
6Mojo Risin'11,30340
7Team Commonwealth11,26233
8Tygh's Group11,24127
9IRC FoR LiFe11,09421
10Team Turkey10,99817
11Czech National Team10,72614
12L'Alliance Francophone10,60411
13Folding on Linux10,5979
14Team Korean BBQ10,4817
15BOINC@Poland10,4085
16Team China10,3374
17sfb57910,1313
18Cogito10,0563
19xkcd10,0132
20turkish voluntered9,8662
21DSN @ Home9,8031
22nothing better to do9,7831
23Crunching Family9,7741
24Contenders9,7381
25ATCG9,3651
 

Comments

Joined: 05/09/2008
Groups: None
Some hints for this Beginner Puzzle

First of all, make sure you have completed the following Intro Levels: 1-1 through 3-4 and 7-1 through 7-4, before trying to play this puzzle.

Once you have loaded this puzzle, click on "Show Alignment" to bring up the alignment tool.

This will bring up the sequence for the protein you are trying to solve (the letters on top) as well as the template sequence on the bottom (of a similar structure that you will thread your sequence onto).

You can move the letters around, trying to get rid of as many gaps as you can and maximizing the white blocks between the two sequences (which represents a good match).

Once you have an alignment that you like you can click on the SMILEY FACE to thread. This will take a while but if it is able to thread you will have a new structure to work on.

Make sure to click Align Guide (under Actions) after you have successfully threaded so that you can see how close you are to the native solution.

Also, once you have threaded successfully you will want to shake & wiggle sidechains (because you are threading your new sequence onto a protein that had different sidechains, so there will be many clashes) before you try to wiggle all.

If you are having trouble matching the native, you can learn some more expert tools in the following intro levels: 4-1 to 4-5.

Feel free to post any questions about this puzzle here in the puzzle comments!

Joined: 05/19/2010
Groups: None
Alignment Question

So, the where does the score on the Alignment Page fit in? If I try and get the highest score possible by moving the top chain around, I end up with large gaps, and moving the lower letters around doesn't help. So, how do I get a better match? By comparing versus the shadow of the original protein?

Joined: 05/09/2008
Groups: None
There is no easy answer

Hello GreatGreyhounds,

Unfortunately the alignment score is not perfect and is probably most useful for comparing different templates (to see which alignment to the query is giving you a better score).

The alignment score is based on BLOSUM (more info about that here if you are interested: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BLOSUM) but basically what you are trying to is to minimize the number of gaps while trying maximize the alignment score.

In general, having 1 long gap is better than having a bunch of short gaps and this should be reflected in the score.

Definitely try comparing your threaded model to the native guide (once you've threaded it) and see if it seems closer to it than a different thread.

I hope you saw our new wiki page on the newest Alignment Tool:

http://foldit.wikia.com/wiki/Alignment_Tool

Get Started: Download
  Windows    OSX    Linux  
Windows
(XP/Vista/7)
OSX
(Intel 10.4 or later)
Linux
(64-bit)
Recommend Foldit
User login
  • Sign in using Facebook
Soloists
Evolvers
Groups
Topics
Facebook Fan Page
Top New Users
Supported by: UW Center for Game Science, UW Department of Computer Science and Engineering, UW Baker Lab, DARPA, NSF, HHMI, Microsoft, and Adobe