Rubber Bands: Negative Strength

Case number:845813-987139
Topic:Game: Tools
Opened by:Toolsmith
Status:Closed
Type:Suggestion
Opened on:Saturday, December 19, 2009 - 13:52
Last modified:Sunday, June 5, 2011 - 17:10

Basically, a "jack". Would allow pushing chains apart.

(Sat, 12/19/2009 - 13:52  |  11 comments)


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That should be already possible by changing the band length. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

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There are some nice scripts which pull the hydrophobics inside.
A negative pull force could help pulling the hydrophilics outside, as you can only apply bands between segments by script, and not into "free air" to get them outside.

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Christoph is right, you can already do this by changing "band length" to a value higher than the actual length.
See http://de.foldit.wikia.com/wiki/Gummiband (german)

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mmm... Gummibands

marking this as Done.

please reopen this tracker if using higher band lengths doesn't work for you.

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I reopened this.

The higher band length doesn't work for me. The length has a maximum of 20, and setting it to a value higher than this causes an error.

There is no easy way to get the current band length to make changes to it. So if the length is 15, you can't easily make it 16, and you certainly can't make it 21.

Many segments are further away from each other than 20, so I can't push on segments that are further than 20 units away from each other.

Action items:

1) Remove the limit on band length, at least making it a very large number such as 10000.
2) Provide a function to get the band length.
3) It still would be useful to allow negative band strengths, as this would be easier than retrieving the current band length and modifying it. The band length is really a different idea than the band strength anyway, as it is the the pressure the band exerts on the segments, not the final length it should reach.

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Ok... marked as Open

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I'm with what Tlaloc said, especially point 3.
Allowing negative values sounds like a safer change than allowing very high band lengths.

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I understand how this works now. The length is the how long the band is attempting to become, the strength is how much effort to get there. If the length is longer than the current distance between segments, then it will use the strength to get there.

So the main real problem is not negative strength. All strengths are positive. However, the first two action items above need to be implemented: lengths longer than 20, and a function to retrieve the current band length.

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Sounds logical.

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Bands length limit up to 10`000 units. Done.

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And functions to retrieve the band strength and length is also done and will be in a future release.

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