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I'm new to Foldit, so bear with me.

http://foldit.wikia.com/wiki/Arabidopsis This page talks about a puzzle that is currently available in Foldit begginer section. But, it also says: "This puzzle has been posted many times in Foldit. See Puzzle 443 for lots of player solutions from 2011."

So my question is, what is the point to repost the same puzzles again? If the folding already has been succesfully done, why fold it again? It makes playing in Foldit completly pointless.

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Hi Toudi_Ogr,

Welcome to Foldit! We maintain six Beginner puzzles that are constantly reposted on a six-week rotation. These Beginner puzzles are intended for newer Foldit players who may have completed the Tutorial levels, but who are still getting used to the complexity of our rotating Science puzzles.

Even for people familiar with proteins, Foldit presents a formidable learning curve. We've found that it can be especially discouraging for novice Foldit players to be thrown in with veterans who have been competing in Foldit for years. Only newer players show up in the rankings of the Beginner puzzles, so in these puzzles you will be ranked alongside other new players who are similarly (in)experienced. The Beginner puzzles are meant to allow new players to practice folding in an environment similar to the regular science puzzles; hopefully you will see some improvement in your Beginner rankings as your skills improve.

However, the Beginner puzzles do not relate directly to any ongoing scientific projects, and we do not analyze the results of the Beginner puzzles like we do for other Science puzzles. If you are already confident in your folding ability, or if you don't mind hanging out at the bottom of the rankings for a while, then I would encourage you to jump right in to the regularly numbered Science puzzles!

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Indeed

The learning curve is about 100-200 puzzles to reach the top 20 (veteran) players.

It can be very discouraging to accumulate bottom rankings puzzle after puzzle. The beginner's puzzles offer a way to learn with fun (competition against other beginners). It's also an unique opportunity to gain soloist points "easily" for the global race. Beginners who succeed in the beginners puzzles jump in the global ranking and get access to the "veteran chat" much earlier.

However, if you want to contribute to science very soon, you might join a group and try to evolve advanced solutions shared by top players. It's another good way to learn.

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